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Linkswitch-PH does not work with digital dimming

Posted by: Nidan on

Hi All,

We have been working with the Link-switch-ph in a number of projects and have had a number of issues, most issues we have solved except for digital dimming.

Firstly you might say why not use analogue dimming? Well not all LEDs can be dimmed in this manner, Osram for example cannot guarantee predictable operation of their LEDs below 100 and sometimes 200mA so in this case analogue will not work.

The issue we are having with Digital dimming is with the light quality. We can get the LEDs to dim right down to 0.3% reliably however we introduce a problem which at different PWM frequency's looks to appear differently but after a lot of probing seams to be caused by the same problem.

At 100hz PWM dimming we could see that the light level would vary level up to approx 50% over a 0.1-0.05 hz cycle.

Increasing the frequency reduced the variance in light level until it looked to disappear however @1K- 4K PWM we would see slight flickers in the light level. This might not be seen on a test bench but is enough to ruin the quality of the light and would give people eye strain if used in general lighting.

We have determined the cause of this to be related to the drain voltage, PWM level and Current limit.

-At 100hz PWM Dimming on a system that is running @240VAC 50HZ we have determined that the frequency's are slightly not matched, so every cycle the dimming waveform is propagating along the mains frequency. At different points in time you will have the PWM on cycle over the mains Zero crossing or close to. Because of the input voltage(low) and the current limit (on the Link-switch) the LED string cannot be run correctly during this cycle, Over time (as they are not in sync) the brightness changes.

-At higher frequency this effect becomes less until it is not noticeable. At 1khz and higher this problem looks like occasional flicker, but it looks to be the same issue.

It looks like Triac dimmed and Analogue dimmed applications don't have this issue as they are synced to the input waveform anyway.

We have also removed this issue with the use of electrolytic s on the input line, however this will alter the power-factor and this design was chosen to remove the electos.

Our current test set-up is designed for 9-12LED, 700mA using the linkswitch 419 ( we have tried with 10uf(low) and 100uf(high) output mode selection)

We have invested a lot of time and money on this design and it would be good to have a PI engineer evaluate this problem and verify that our findings are indeed correct.

Any other help in finding ways around this issue would be appreciated

Nidan

(to restate if it didn't make sense)
-The Frequency of the mains input and the PWM are not the same and are not synced
-When the PWM turns on the the Drain voltage is too low the device cannot pull enough current to turn the leds on correctly)
-the output and led power varies overtime because of this
-At low PWM frequency's it looks like changing LED power (brightness)
-At high PWM frequency s it looks like slight flicker

评论

Submitted by PI-Crumb on 04/02/2012

hi,

Kindly provide us with more info such as schematic and captured waveforms in order to understand your issues better.
Thanks.

Submitted by Nidan on 04/02/2012

You can find more information about this in the following thread
http://www.powerint.com/en/forum/led-driver-design/led-output-voltage-oscillating-05-01-hz-when-using-pwm-dimming-lnk419

We have tried and verified this problem with
-Our own transformer and layout (with both Digital and 817 optos)
-PIs reference design RDR194, with the required changes to make it Digital dimming
-PIs reference design (unreleased circuit) with PWM dimming at 2khz (使用LNK416 EG芯片设计的36V@360mA PAR30 LED驱动电源)

We have also tested it with Osram and CREE leds.

Regards
Nidan

Submitted by PI-Crumb on 04/03/2012

In reply to by gobooth

As you already observed, the light variation is caused by difference between the line frequency and pwm frequency since the two are not in sync.

Setting the PWM to a higher frequency such as 1kHz usually solves this issue which you have also verified. I therefore suggest that you operate the PWM atleast 1kHz or slightly higher on your design.

What puzzle me, however, is when you said you still observe occassional flicker even at 1kHz-4kHz PWM frequency. I would like to know how bad is this flicker, and what is its frequency.

Submitted by Nidan on 04/03/2012

What we can see is.

-As we increased the PWM frequency the flicker increases. So at 4khz it was greater than at 1 kHz. At 1 kHz we still see the problem, just not as often.
-We see the flicker more often at some duty cycles. For example @ 10-15% duty cycles we can generate this flicker.
-With other light sources in the room the flicker is harder to see, so we would suggest isolating the unit you are testing in a dark room. (especially since at 10-15% duty cycle is a low wattage compared to the office lighting)
-Looking directly at the light source its hard to see the issue. Instead project the light onto a white or light coloured wall about 1 meter away and you will be able to see the flicker much easier.

Regards
Nidan

Submitted by PI-Crumb on 04/09/2012

Please try increasing output capacitance or bias capacitance and operate the PWM at 1kHz.