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Availability of recommended flyback transformer cores and equivalence of vendor materials

Posted by: dch53 on

Hi. 

My first PI Expert flyback converter design recommends a PQ26/20-3F3 core. All the listed cores appear to be 3F3 which seems to be a Ferroxcube material.

The PQ26/20-3F3 core doesn't seem to be available anywhere in small quantities.

Would a TDK N97 PQ25/20 core be an acceptable substitute?

I'm having the same trouble sourcing small quantities of magnet and triple insulated wire. Any suggestions please?

Thanks.

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Submitted by PI-Hueka on 07/31/2024

Hi dch53,

Good day. Thank you for using Power Integrations solutions.

Other core types of PQ25/20 should work, as long as their parameters are within each specification and similar to the parameters considered in the design, such as the core cross-sectional area (Ae), core magnetic path length (Le), and core volume (Ve).

Regarding the sourcing of magnetic wires, we do not have a directory for distributors. Therefore, we’re unable to provide suggestions in this regard. Thank you for your understanding.

I hope this resolves your inquiry. Thank you for reaching out to us.

Submitted by dch53 on 07/31/2024

Thanks!

Submitted by PI-Wrench on 01/09/2025

Small quantities of cores and bobbins are available from Digi-Key and Mouser. I checked, and the PQ26/20  size is definitely available. Bobbins are also available. Magnet wire is available from MWS Wire Services in Chatsworth, California, though you might have to buy a pound or two to meet their minimum requirement. Triple insulated wire is available from Rubadue Wire at rubadue.com. If you ask them nicely, you may be able to get a sufficient sample quantity from them to meet your needs.

Submitted by dch53 on 01/09/2025

Thanks for the reply. 

The issue was the core material rather than the core size and shape. I ended up getting a TDK N97 core.

Thanks also for the wire recommendations. I was able to purchase what I needed from aliexpress and an online hobby store.

All that said, I haven't set up a winder yet. Hoping to get to that soon. The PCBs for my prototype flyback converter arrived yesterday.

Submitted by PI-Wrench on 01/09/2025

How will you grind the gap for the transformers? You will need a gap to get any significant power output, otherwise the transformer core will saturate like mad. What software are you using for the transformer design? What is your proposed controller/mosfet combination?

Submitted by dch53 on 01/09/2025

None of the available gapped cores met my requirements so my plan is to add paper "spacers" to create the gap required while doing repeated inductance measurements to find the correct gap.

I'm planning on using the transformer design specified by the PI tool.

The actual flyback converter design is based on an MPS MPX2002  evaluation board.

Submitted by PI-Wrench on 01/14/2025

Can you share a PDF of the transformer design output by the PI tool?

Submitted by dch53 on 01/14/2025

Sure. Pages 10 and 11 of the attached pdf.

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Submitted by PI-Wrench on 01/14/2025

You have three outputs with separate grounds. There will definitely be issues with cross regulation with wide load variations.

Submitted by dch53 on 01/14/2025

Yeah. Fortunately, all outputs are pretty much constant current so I'm hoping that won't be an issue.